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 John RooneyBorn between 1792 and 1796 Ireland, died between 1871 and 1874 Avon Township, Stearns, Minnesota, USA My observation: Could this John Rooney be a brother to "Daddy Mick?" John's descendants coincidentally fit into the Michael and Catherine Rooney line when a granddaughter married married a Daddy Mick Rooney grandson: Ellen E. Rooney (1872-1902) married Thomas T. Rooney (185 4-1925). I emailed Tim Ahles to ask him what he knew. Tim says: "The Ellen Rooney that married Thomas T Rooney (grandson of Daddy Mick), is from the Rooney branch that we often refer to as the "Avon Rooneys." Ellen's parents are William Rooney and Bridget Hartigan. I do not have any records of Ellen's grandparents, but they might be the John Rooney and Helen Hennigan that you mentioned. We have often suspected a connection between our Rooneys and those from Avon but have not yet proven it." Best online tree so far seems to be "Mally." March 24, 2017 email from Randy Rooney: David - the DNA match with Evie [Rooney Kukowski] is a grandson of George Steven Rooney. Below is what they have in their tree for Rooney males. Ellen and Thomas T. would have been 2nd cousins, if John and Daddy Mick were brothers. "Avon Rooneys": John Rooney, b. ~1796 in Ireland, d. Avon?, m. Helen (Anna) Hennigan John had two sons: 2. a. John Rooney, b. 1834 in Quebec, d. 1859-1860 in Canada 2. b. William Rooney, b. 1841 in Quebec, d. 1914 in Avon, m. Bridget Hartigan William had four daughters (including Ellen "Ellie" who married Thomas T.) and one son: 3. John Patrick Rooney, b. 1871 in Avon, d. 1942 in Stearns Co, m. Alice Keenan John Patrick had four daughters and three sons: 4. a. William Edward Rooney, b. 1897 in Stearns Co, d. 1980 in Stearns Co, family unknown 4. b. Daniel John Rooney, b, 1900 in Stearns Co, d. 1972 in CA, family unknown 4. c. George Steven Rooney, b. 1904 in Avon, d. 1969 in Los Angeles George Steven had two daughters, one is the mother of the DNA match with Evie - which still needs confirmed if it is due to Rooney DNA or someone else. The match is with "T.R. (administered by kathleenriedel1)," if you want to check your results. I have contacted Kathleen, and she is supposed to be passing on my contact info to a Rooney aunt of her husband, T.R. April 11, 2017 I now have my own match to a descendant on the Avon Rooney branch, Andrew Minzghor! We are 5C1R and share 7.2 cM of DNA on one segment, and no shared matches (even though I think Tim Ahles independently matches him). His line, as he shows it: Andrew > mother > father > Agnes Cecelia Voit (b. 1908) > Gertrude B. Rooney > William Rooney. John Rooney is in the 1861 Canada census at Rigaud, Vaudreuil, Canada. Married before 1830 Ireland (married 43 or 44 years) to:  Helen Anna "Anna; HENEGAN; HANAHAN" Hennigan, age by marriage at most 29 yearsBorn 1801 Ireland, died between 1871 and 1874 Avon Township, Stearns, Minnesota, USA, age 72 or 73 years Her name in the 1851 Canada census is listed as Anna Henegan. In her son John's baptismal record it's Hanahan. In the 1861 census it's Helen Hennigan. Children: 1. Patrick RooneyBorn 1830 Ireland, died 1870 West De Pere, Brown County, Wisconsin, age 39 or 40 years Patrick is not in the 1851 Canada census with the rest of the family. 2. Catherine RooneyBorn 22 Jan 1832 Rigaud, Vaudreuil, Quebec, Canada, died 17 Jul 1898 Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan Event Description: Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Detroit, MI, age 66 years 3. John Thomas RooneyBorn 20 Aug 1834 Rigaud, Quebec, Canada, died 19 Dec 1860 St.-Eugene, Prescott, Ontario, Canada, age 26 years The baptismal record appears to some to be written as John "Kareen" Rooney, but I think it's really "Thomas." The faded French: "The 23rd August 1834 the parish priest undersigned baptized John Thomas who was since born of the legitimate marriage of John Rooney farmer and his spouse Helène Hanahan. Thomas Lashinte (spelling?) and Catherine Hanahan have signed as sponsors." John Rooney (junior) is not in the 1861 census of Canada – he died a year earlier. His brother Patrick Rooney was a witness to the church death record. 4. Eleanor "Helen" RooneyBorn 19 Nov 1836 Rigaud, Quebec, Canada, died 13 Dec 1852 Rigaud, Quebec, Canada, age 16 years 5. William B RooneyBorn 15 Mar 1841 Montreal, Quebec, Canada Event Description: or 5 Dec 1839, died 8 Dec 1914 Avon, Stearns County, Minnesota Event Description: Old Saint Benedict's Cemetery, Avon, age 73 years Tombstone reads born March 15, 1841. He died of carcinoma of the face. He first arrived in the U. S. 1 Nov 1865 from Pig's Eye, Quebec. An 1896 map of Avon Township, Stearns County shows that William Rooney owned about 96.4 acres in Section 10 of Avon Township (about 3 miles NNW of the city of Avon), and his son J. P. Rooney owned 63.5 acres adjacent to that, including an abode. The 1900 census shows they had 8 children of which 5 are alive. The 1905 census has an 8-year-old John Rooney living with them, born in New York, his parents born in Canada. He is probably one of the orphan train children; the 1910 census says he is an adopted son. They also have a William Murphy, age 10, living with them. This may be their deceased daughter Elizabeth's son, though he's back with his family in 1910. The 1910 census says they arrived in the U.S. in 1886, but it was perhaps meant to be 1866. | |||